Fox vs NYT

Methinks you miss the point about the problem at the Times. It is beyond debate that it is liberal, although I am glad you gritted your teeth and actually made your fingers type out that admission. The issue is that it has no journalistic standards. It is so agenda driven that it fails every journalism school smell test invented by real journalists back in the 50's... and worse yet is not even ashamed enough to try to change. It gets worse every decade. It's editorial page morphed into the news pages years ago.

As for Fox, if you watched, which you don't, you would see that for every conservative pundit they have address an issue their is a liberal one sitting right next to his side. My better half gets irritated listening to the likes of Alan Colmbs, Lanny Davis, Bob Beckle and their ilk...but they get half the dialog time to make the point that Fox is trying to offer both opinions in their effort to some balance. There are literally dozens of these libs on Fox and they get the opportunity to give full throat to your agenda. Yes it tends right but surveys have shown the average cable viewer ( of all political stripes) thinks Fox is more trustworthy than the other cable channels. Not that any of them attain much of a high water mark in reaching professional journalism standards

Care to tell me how many conservatives work for or write for the Times. You can count them on one hand. Do you seriously think they can even pretend to be balanced or offer any opposing views??? Before you call Fox names, suggest you watch it.....you will see many of your favorite libs. This afternoon we were watching the saturday program that reviews news coverage, hot stories, evaluates journalism in print and on tv.....yep half the commentators were r and half d's. One of the libs is Jane Hall...know her? She is a professor of journalism at American University.....stays busy cranking out more lib cub reporters and talking heads. A nice lady but totally unable to wrap her mouth around the words
"liberal bias".